Posts by disposable hero of hypocrisy

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What ARE the fruits that the JW tree produces?

by TTWSYF in

my brother [the elder] often refers to this line as to 'knowing a tree by it;s fruits'.

so,my question is what are the jw fruits?.

just asking....sincerely.

disposable hero of hypocrisy

I can only speak from my own standpoint.

I haven't suffered at the hands of the bOrg (except for my lack of education), contrary to that I've seen and experienced plenty of good fruits, companions, kindnesses etc, and would still obliviously be enjoying these things had I not woken up. It's only now, with knowledge that I realise there are plenty of rotten fruits as well.

Of course, this knowledge is forbidden to any good jdub, so I personally don't believe they know better, they're conditioned to never take in information contrary to wt so they genuinely believe they're doing the right thing. I feel sorry for them, for all of us.

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What ARE the fruits that the JW tree produces?

by TTWSYF in

my brother [the elder] often refers to this line as to 'knowing a tree by it;s fruits'.

so,my question is what are the jw fruits?.

just asking....sincerely.

disposable hero of hypocrisy

Certainly secular laws seem to have little or no effect on those who have a propensity for poor behavior, in fact it rarely even corrects that behavior. What makes you think religious threats or guidance would have a better effect?

Because I know of one example in particular, someone (married) that said if they thought it wasn't 'the truth' then they would be out and about a-fornicatin' galore.

Maybe it was just said for effect, and I hope so, but for individuals that have that mentality, the threat of a vengeful sky daddy keeping them in check is a real and positive effect.

Another positive is the sense of community that some loners and outsiders get that they might not necessarily get elsewhere.

Don't get me wrong, it doesn't make up for the mental and spiritual abuse or the wrecked families, I'm just saying that SOME may well get through an entire life in the bOrg benefited (only because they know no better) and unscathed.

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What ARE the fruits that the JW tree produces?

by TTWSYF in

my brother [the elder] often refers to this line as to 'knowing a tree by it;s fruits'.

so,my question is what are the jw fruits?.

just asking....sincerely.

disposable hero of hypocrisy

And a lot of broken families for no good reason. That's a biggie.

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What ARE the fruits that the JW tree produces?

by TTWSYF in

my brother [the elder] often refers to this line as to 'knowing a tree by it;s fruits'.

so,my question is what are the jw fruits?.

just asking....sincerely.

disposable hero of hypocrisy

OK, prepare to hit the unlike button.

I've experienced love (conditional), and some charity (generally only for jdubs locally but charitable acts and donations nonetheless), kindness, and other Christan qualities.

I think for SOME people, those individuals who NEED authority to tell them what's right and wrong, it keeps them in line, which is probably a good fruit. I'll qualify this by saying that I don't need to be told that sleeping around would hurt my wife, so I don't do it, (having a face like a bag of spanners has nothing to do with it!) However there are some that need to be told, for them I think religion is probably a good thing.

So, some good fruits, but unfortunately I believe no more than you'd get in your local <insert church/club/support group of choice here>.

Along with an inordinate amount of fear, guilt and obligation. And backstabbery. And gossip. And judgementalism.

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Hi Everyone. Answer to prayer countdown...

by Stumpy in

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i've been lurking for about 3 months now and thought i'd better finally sign up.

you have all been an immense help to me as i have come to realize that this isn't the truth so i want to say a great big thank you!

what a crazy, emotional ride it is to finally face the truth about the doubts that i have carried for many years.

disposable hero of hypocrisy

Well done in your diligence stumpy, in so glad Mrs stumpy is with you. Your research is amazing, all those original scans. I will certainly benefit, and hopefully my wife will too one day. Thank you again, regards to the missus, enjoy your freedom!

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Korean news with my story...

by AntiEntropy in

i joined this site 12 years ago and i revisited it yesterday to get some information on coc's status.. .

frankly saying, i've tried to be a complete ex-ex-jw so that ex-jw things would not drive my life mad.

due to my linguistic barrier of writing in a foreign language, 12 years ago, i could not but read and read and read this site.

disposable hero of hypocrisy

^^ me too fast jehu , I never ever thought of it so succinctly before.

(Cool name btw. O pencil sharp is an awesome song. If your name isn't linked to a band then that will mean less than nothing to you!!))

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Jehovah's Witnesses Royal Commission - Elders Can't Remember (Video Compilation)

by defender of truth in

not my work, by the way... newton's prisca theologia is the maker of this great video.. http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=okpajgptvyk.

disposable hero of hypocrisy

There's a Peter Gabriel song that goes well with this.

I don't remember

I don't recall

I got no memory

Of anything at all.

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Thank you defender of truth.

by umbertoecho in

defender of truth....thank you so much for putting me in touch with a very good expert...we are in touch and she is helping enormously.. don't you dare disappear from this forum...you are the same as all of us...and we all get upset at the things we see as cruel or unjust.

you were very very helpful to me.

all of you were lovely and i am very content inside to know i can speak my mind.

disposable hero of hypocrisy

Not bad for a bunch of (mainly) godless heathens eh?

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bloody religion !!! how could any sane people do this - 2 girls to be raped as a punishment for their brother's "crime."

by fulltimestudent in

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friends

been sitting on this for a few days, confining my anger, to an area where i can control it.. two indian sisters to be raped as 'punishment' after brother eloped.

two sisters in india - one aged only 15 years - are to be raped as "punishment" for their brother running away with a married woman from a higher caste in the latest case to shock the country.meenakshi kumari, who is 23, and her younger sister, will then be paraded naked with their faces blackened through the streets, according to a ruling from the all-male village council.. the family are from the dalit caste, historically known as "untouchables".

however, the brother fell in love with a woman from the higher, jat, caste.

disposable hero of hypocrisy

Signed. Backwards lunatics. I hope they get stopped in their tracks when they realise the world is watching and strongly disapproves.

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need input: My wife is at it again...this time about the faithful and discreet slave

by goingthruthemotions in

so you all know that i go with my wife to the meeting to protect the kids from the drival and pacify her.

tonight we are sitting there and she points to mathew and says something about the faithful and discreet slave and she said eplain this.

so breaking away from what i was reading in the meeting..." in search of christian freedom by franz"...i said.

disposable hero of hypocrisy

You reasoned well. Logical, scriptural, calmly (I hope).

You can do no more than that. Allow it to sink in. Be patient, hopefully she'll eventually realise that you may well have a point..